Казахстан в бронзовом веке тоже характеризуется андроновской культурой
| I3767 | 3717 | Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1 | Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1 | Ak-Moustafa, Central Kazakhstan, Kurgan 2 | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2 | U5b2b |
| I4773 | 3516 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Aktogai_MLBA | Aktogai | Kazakhstan | M | R1a | U5a1a2a |
| I4774 | 3512 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Aktogai_MLBA | Aktogai | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | J1c5a |
| I4265 | 3534 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Aktogai_MLBA | Aktogai | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2 | N1a1a1 |
| I4264 | 3560 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Aktogai_MLBA | Aktogai | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I6823 | 3500 | Alpamsa_BA_Alakul | Alpamsa_MLBA_Alakul | Alpamsa | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I3447 | 4623 | Dali_EBA | Dali_EBA | Dali, Byan Zherek | Kazakhstan | F | .. | R3 |
| I0507 | 3704 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Dali_MLBA | Dali, Byan Zherek | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | U5a1a2a |
| I1931 | 3348 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Dali_MLBA | Dali, Byan Zherek | Kazakhstan | F | .. | J2b1a2,J2b1a2 |
| I3448 | 3704 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Dali_MLBA | Dali, Byan Zherek | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T,T1a1,.. |
| I4567 | 3637 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | M | R | U4a1,U4a1,U4a1 |
| I4568 | 3641 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | M | R1 | H6a1a2a,H6a1a2a,H53 |
| I4318 | 3663 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | J2b1a2,J2b1a2 |
| I4776 | 3663 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U5b2a1a2 |
| I4779 | 3641 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | H27 |
| I5761 | 3802 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Kairan_MLBA | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I4566 | 3596 | Kairan_MLBA_o | Kairan_MLBA_o | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | Z1 |
| I4780 | 3648 | Kairan_MLBA_o | Kairan_MLBA_o | Kairan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U2e1b,U2e1b,U2e1b |
| I4319 | 3638 | Kairan_MLBA_o_LC | Kairan_MLBA_o_LC | Kairan | Kazakhstan | M | BT | R3 |
| I6708 | 4062 | Kanai_MBA | Kanai_MBA | Kanai | Kazakhstan | M | C2b | T |
| I4262 | 3738 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Karagash_MLBA | Karagash 2 | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | K1a26 |
| I4263 | 3700 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Karagash_MLBA | Karagash 2 | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | U5a1d2b |
| I4778 | 3587 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Karagash_MLBA_father.or.son.I4262 | Karagash 2 | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | H7b |
| I4322 | 3507 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Kazakh_Mys_MLBA | Kazakh Mys | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1 | U2e1 |
| I4783 | 3482 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Kazakh_Mys_MLBA | Kazakh Mys | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | H1b |
| I4321 | 3534 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Kazakh_Mys_MLBA | Kazakh Mys | Kazakhstan | F | .. | J1c2 |
| I4782 | 3629 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Kazakh_Mys_MLBA | Kazakh Mys | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U5b2b |
| I4323 | 3634 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Kyzlbulak_MLBA1 | Kyzlbulak 1 | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U2e1'2'3 |
| I4784 | 3516 | Kyzlbulak_MBA2 | Kyzlbulak_MLBA2 | Kyzlbulak 1 | Kazakhstan | M | Q1a2b2 | G2a1e |
| I6788 | 3713 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul | Lisakovskiy | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I6800 | 3663 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul | Lisakovskiy | Kazakhstan | F | .. | H3g |
| I6789 | 3735 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | T1a1 |
| I6793 | 3641 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | HV6 |
| I6794 | 3732 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | U4b1a1a1 |
| I6790 | 3728 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T2b34 |
| I6791 | 3713 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I6796 | 3765 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T2b34 |
| I6797 | 3728 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I6792 | 3734 | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T2b34 |
| I6795 | 3646 | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o | Maitan_MLBA_Alakul_o | Maitan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T2e2 |
| I3769 | 3150 | Talapty_MLBA | Molaly_MLBA | Molaly Kurgan, South Kazakhstan | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I4791 | 3480 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | M | R1a | J1b1a1 |
| I4790 | 3433 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | W1c |
| I4789 | 3508 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U5a1a1,U5a1a1 |
| I7060 | 3450 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | F | .. | T1a1 |
| I3861 | 3728 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | F | .. | U4a1 |
| I3788 | 3558 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA | Two sites: Oi-Zhaylau-III grave and Talapty-II stone fencing 2 | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | U4b1a1a |
| I3860 | 3626 | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o2 | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o1 | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | R3 |
| I7059 | 3450 | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o2 | Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA_o2 | Oi-Dzhailau | Kazakhstan | F | .. | J1b1a1+146 |
| I3864 | 3587 | Steppe_MLBA_West | Solyanka_MLBA | Vodokhranilische, Kurgan 4, Grave 6 | Kazakhstan | F | .. | R3 |
| I6799 | 3732 | Satan_MLBA_Alakul | Satan_MLBA_Alakul | Satan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | T1a1 |
| I4787 | 3238 | Taldysay_MLBA1 | Taldysay_MLBA1 | Taldysay, central Kazakhstan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | H3g |
| I4794 | 3450 | Taldysay_MLBA2 | Taldysay_MLBA2 | Taldysay, Central Kazakhstan | Kazakhstan | M | J2a1h2 | C4 |
| I3770 | 3986 | Steppe_MLBA_East | Zevakinskiy_BA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | T1a1 |
| I4295 | 3084 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Eastern Kazakhstan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | A2 |
| I4267 | 3053 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Eastern Kazakhstan | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | I2 |
| I3976 | 3051 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | M | Q1a2a1c | U5b2a1a2 |
| I3753 | 2976 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b | K1c1 |
| I3977 | 3013 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | M | R1b1a1a1 | U5b2b |
| I3772 | 2913 | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy_LBA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | F | .. | W3a1 |
| I3763 | 3476 | Zevakinskiy_MLBA | Zevakinskiy_MLBA | Zevakinskiy stone fence | Kazakhstan | M | R1a1a1b2a2a | U2 |
12 часов назад, Samtat сказал:I3391 Krasnoyarsk Krai, near Orak Ulus, Orak burial place Russia NorthAsia Russia_MLBA_Krasnoyarsk 3600 XY U5b2c R1a R1a1a1b2a2a3b
R›M207›M173›M420›M459›CTS5437›M515›M198›M417›PF6162›Z93›Z94›Z2124›Z2125›S23592›FGC56408›YP1456
https://www.exploreyourdna.com/sample/russia/i3391
Видимо прослеживается линия от андроновцев к ранним племенам железного века, от них к древним кыргызам и далее к современным https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP1456/
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3 часа назад, Momyn сказал:
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3 часа назад, Momyn сказал:wwwTREEGENE KZ
это поверхностное исследование в моем случае?:
"Гаплотип определен по 27 STR маркерам Y хромосомы (DIS19 – исследованный участок ДНК, 16 – Ваш вариант данного маркера) Заголовки столбцов обозначают маркер (исследованный участок ДНК, например, DYS389I), а цифры во второй строке обозначают обнаруженный Ваш вариант (аллель) данного маркера (локуса)"
Да поверхностное. 700 СТР-маркеров и все СНП гораздо более лучшую картину дает.
Из книги: Джамгерчинов Б.Д. Очерк политической истории Киргизии XIX века. Фрунзе, 1966
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