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http://www.tataroved.ru/institut/cizc/sb/5/

Late Neolithic expansion of ancient Chinese revealed by Y chromosome haplogroup O3a1c-002611 Chuan-Chao Wang1, Shi Yan2, Zhen-Dong Qin1, Yan Lu1, Qi-Liang Ding1, Lan-Hai Wei1, Shi-Lin Li1, Ya-Jun Yang1, Li Jin1,2, Hui Li1,*, the Genographic Consortium Abstract Y chromosome haplogroup O3-M122 is the most prevalent haplogroup in East Asia, and provides an ideal tool of dissecting primary dispersals of the East Asians. Most of the sub-haplogroups of O3-M122 have been sufficiently investigated except for O3a1c-002611, despite its great prevalence and huge population, especially in Han Chinese. In this study, we identified 508 individuals with haplogroup O3a1c-002611 out of 7801 males from 117 East and Southeast Asian populations, typed at two newly discovered downstream Y-SNP markers and ten commonly used Y-STRs. Defined by SNPs IMS-JST002611 (in short, 002611), F11, and F238, three lineages internal to haplogroup O3a1c-002611 have distinct geographical distributions. Furthermore, Y-STR diversity shows a general south-to-north decline, which is consistent with the prehistorically northward migration of the other O3-M122 lineages. The northward migration of haplogroup O3a1c-002611 started about 13 thousand years (KYA) ago. The expansions of subclades F11 and F238 in ancient Han Chinese began about 5 KYA and 7 KYA ago right after the separation between the ancestors of Han Chinese and Tibeto-Burman. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1759-6831.2012.00244.x/abstract

М407 не включен в состав C3g Z1338 Хотя результаты Гено 2 говорят об этом.

PK2 убрали из классификации Исогга • C3 M217, P44, Z1453 • • C3* - • • C3a M93 • • C3b P39 • • C3c M48 • • • C3c* -- • • • C3c1 M77, M86 • • C3d M407 • • C3e P53.1 • • C3f P62 • • C3g Z1338 • • • C3g* - • • • C3g1 Z1300

Изолятов нет, у каждого народа были метисации либо давно либо недавно. Моногаплогруппных народов нет. А по тем двум Это люди с результатами от Гено 2. Гено 2 помогает закрепить и уточнить место каждой тестированной группы относительно других результатов.

Наверное можно, но диаграммы не я делал а габриэль его можно и спросить.

Результаты WTY и двух Гено 2 (дубли убрал, оставил только снипы характерные для субклада, 2 снипа оставил в двух образцах, видимо М134 и F299 на одном уровне стоят) 237553 Ashim М134 M134+, F444+(?), F299+, F46+, L1359+, L1360+, L1361+, L1362+, CTS7498+, CTS11459+, F14+, F44+ 199578 Zheng M117 CTS11109+, CTS11580+, CTS11742+, CTS11856+, CTS12099+, CTS12173+, CTS1275+, CTS12876+, CTS2338+, CTS2861+, CTS3251+, CTS3255+, CTS4111+, CTS4723+, CTS5128+, CTS5866+, CTS6623+, CTS8236+, CTS899+, F103+, F130+, F131+, F139+, F141+, F144+, F146+, F148+, F149+, F151+, F204+, F235+, F246+, F257+, F267+, F299+, F342+, F348+, F363+, F3710+, F373+, F417+, F42+, F422+, F427+, F432+, F438+, F450+, F476+, F484+, F515+, F522+, F525+, F579+, F581+, F584+, F613+, F615+, F649+, F688+, F697+, F76+, F8+, F80+, M133+, M134+, P164+, P201+, PAGES00023+, N77456 Mui IMS-JST002611+ CTS11839+, CTS11981+, CTS12173+, CTS1558+, CTS2483+, CTS3663+, CTS4414+, CTS5687+, CTS5822+, CTS5879+, CTS7638+, CTS7789+, F105+, F108+, F1095+, F110+, F117+, F119+, F1249+, F1250+, F133+, F145+, F159+, F164+, F17+, F170+, F18+, F188+, F189+, F197+, F2270+, F240+, F2427+, F243+, F247+, F253+, F272+, F2732+, F30+, F300+, F302+, F304+, F305+, F309+, F357+, F377+, F412+, F434+, F460+, F463+, F498+, F51+, F514+, F526+, F529+, F530+, F550+, F562+, F573+, F58+, F60+, F601+, F61+, F620+, F632+, F642+, F646+, F664+, F672+, F676+, F68+, F685+, F691+, F856+, F95+, F99+, IMS-JST002611+, L127+, L465+, L467+, M175+, PF4341+

Чистого ДНК нет. Все этносы это смеси.

Нет, в выборке есть перекос в сторону одних родов и недостаток других. Плюс в проекте не только казахи, но и другие есть

ногай ханом не был, их было как минимум двое джучидов не считая тех кто из казахских шежире (у алимов, аргунов, караулов) Урусов тоже было много, просто урус-хан более известен.

Имена-этнонимы у кочевниковв не редки Урус, Тангут, Калмак, Турикпен, Ногай, араб-шах и т.д.

У нас казахское шежире сплошь и рядом наполнено интересными именами.

Итоги проекта от Габриэля.

http://ytree.ftdna.com/

У нас фамилии идут от имен предков а не от названий родов.

Нет, скорее всего.

230225 Atanov G G-M201 L1323+, L1324+, L1325+, L1326-, L1327+

Начали приходить 2-4 панели бериша каратокая типичные 0 в 448 и 12-12-12-12 в 464

Скорее N1c1

У наймана нашли следующие мутации L1359+, L1360+, L1361+, L1362+, CTS7498+, CTS11459+, F14+, F44+, F46+, F299+

Не тунгусы.

Пока не понял.

Захоронения народа Дунху очень интересны в плане сравнений с современными народами.

Genetic Data Suggests that the Jinggouzi People are Associated with the Donghu, an Ancient Nomadic Group of North China // Human Biology 84(4):365-378. 2012 doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.3378/027.084.0402 Wang et al. Nomadic populations have played a significant role in the history of not only China but also in many nations worldwide. Because they had no written language, an important aspect in the study of these people is the discovery of their tombs. It has been generally accepted that Xiongnu was the first empire created by a nomadic tribe in the 3rd century BC. However, little population genetic information is available concerning the Donghu, another flourishing nomadic tribe at the same period because of the restriction of materials until the Jinggouzi site was excavated. In order to test the genetic characteristics of ancient people in this site and to explore the relationship between Jinggouzis and Donghus, two uniparentally inherited markers were analyzed from 42 human remains in this site, which was located in northern China, dated approximately 2500 years ago. With ancient DNA technology, four mtDNA haplogroups (D, G, C, and M10) and one Y chromosome haplogroup © were identified using mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome single nucleotide polymorphisms. Those haplogroups are common in North Asia and East Asia. The Jinggouzi people were genetically closest to the Xianbeis in ancient populations and to the Oroqens among extant populations, who were all pastoralists. This might indicate that ancient Jinggouzi people were nomads. Meanwhile, according to the genetic data and the evidences in archaeology, we inferred that Jinggouzi people were associated with Donghu. It is of much value to trace the history of the Donghu tribe and this might show some insight into the ancient nomadic society. http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3378/027.084.0402?af=R

http://tvrain.ru/articles/slavjane_pojavilis_na_territorii_rossii_otnositelno_nedavno_nezadolgo_do_rjurika-334402/