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Спасибо большое за ссылки на информативные источники. На данном сайте размещены ссылки на три файла в базе данных, включая приведенную Вами рукопись. К сожалению не по одному из них не смог скачать материал. Наверное не разобрался)

Спасибо большое за информацию. Есть ли в открытом доступе шижире кипчакских жагалтаев? Или каракалпакских кыпшаков?

Rust, добрый день. Может Вы могли бы помочь с поиском кызгызской версии эпоса Кыз Жыбек?

kyrgyzdaar, салам алейкум! Можете подсказать, где можно найти кыргызский вариант? И как он называется?

Kamal, салам алейкум! Скажите, пожалуйста, есть ли каракалпакская версия эпоса Кыз Жибек? И где можно ознакомится с героическим эпосом каракалпаков?

Интересно, совпаденцы, указавшие себя как "ханьцы" могут на самом деле быть не ими?

汉族 В анкетах Ханьцы оказывается)

Добрый день уважаемые форумчане! Хотелось бы услышать Ваши мнения по поводу совпадения жагалбайлинских и китайских образцов. Понимаю, может быть много версий, но все же в какое время: гунны, кидане, монголы, тюрки? Когда?

This is equivalent to O-MF61473 on the Chinese YDNA tree: https://www.theytree.com/tree/O-MF61473 Что за база данных? В нее можно с Уфулл автоматом попасть?

Да, сюжет закручивается)) Надеюсь развязка близка))

https://www.theytree.com/tree/O-MF61473 Здесь не то?

На LIVE yfull пока только вижу. Это не считается, что он на дереве? Какие Ваши мысли по этому поводу вообще? 2470 лет всего-то)

По карте эти провинции на востоке Китая) Вернее наверное северо-восток

Добрый день, уважаемые участники форума! Есть новости по Жагалбайлы: https://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=9810.msg543506#new Your YDNA paternal haplogroup had been updated on Yfull live: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/O-MF58622 This is equivalent to O-MF61473 on the Chinese YDNA tree: https://www.theytree.com/tree/O-MF61473 You and one Chinese individual from Jiangsu Xuzhou, one Chinese individual from Shannxi Yan'an, one Chinese individual from Shandong Weihai share an ancestor from 2430 years ago. There is also a new study done on Y-STR in Kazakhstan: "Genetic Relationship Among the Kazakh People Based on Y-STR Markers Reveals Evidence of Genetic Variation Among Tribes and Zhuz" https://doi.org/10.3389/fgene.2021.801295 Abstract Ethnogenesis of Kazakhs took place in Central Asia, a region of high genetic and cultural diversity. Even though archaeological and historical studies have shed some light on the formation of modern Kazakhs, the process of establishment of hierarchical socioeconomic structure in the Steppe remains contentious. In this study, we analyzed haplotype variation at 15 Y-chromosomal short-tandem-repeats obtained from 1171 individuals from 24 tribes representing the three socio-territorial subdivisions (Senior, Middle and Junior zhuz) in Kazakhstan to comprehensively characterize the patrilineal genetic architecture of the Kazakh Steppe. In total, 577 distinct haplotypes were identified belonging to one of 20 haplogroups; 16 predominant haplogroups were confirmed by SNP-genotyping. The haplogroup distribution was skewed towards C2-M217, present in all tribes at a global frequency of 51.9%. Despite signatures of spatial differences in haplotype frequencies, a Mantel test failed to detect a statistically significant correlation between genetic and geographic distance between individuals. An analysis of molecular variance found that ∼8.9% of the genetic variance among individuals was attributable to differences among zhuzes and ∼20% to differences among tribes within zhuzes. The STRUCTURE analysis of the 1164 individuals indicated the presence of 20 ancestral groups and a complex three-subclade organization of the C2-M217 haplogroup in Kazakhs, a result supported by the multidimensional scaling analysis. Additionally, while the majority of the haplotypes and tribes overlapped, a distinct cluster of the O2 haplogroup, mostly of the Naiman tribe, was observed. Thus, firstly, our analysis indicated that the majority of Kazakh tribes share deep heterogeneous patrilineal ancestries, while a smaller fraction of them are descendants of a founder paternal ancestor. Secondly, we observed a high frequency of the C2-M217 haplogroups along the southern border of Kazakhstan, broadly corresponding to both the path of the Mongolian invasion and the ancient Silk Road. Interestingly, we detected three subclades of the C2-M217 haplogroup that broadly exhibits zhuz-specific clustering. Further study of Kazakh haplotypes variation within a Central Asian context is required to untwist this complex process of ethnogenesis.

Добрый день, уважаемые участники форума! Есть новости по Жагалбайлы: https://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=9810.msg543506#new Your YDNA paternal haplogroup had been updated on Yfull live: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/O-MF58622 This is equivalent to O-MF61473 on the Chinese YDNA tree: https://www.theytree.com/tree/O-MF61473 You and one Chinese individual from Jiangsu Xuzhou, one Chinese individual from Shannxi Yan'an, one Chinese individual from Shandong Weihai share an ancestor from 2430 years ago. There is also a new study done on Y-STR in Kazakhstan: "Genetic Relationship Among the Kazakh People Based on Y-STR Markers Reveals Evidence of Genetic Variation Among Tribes and Zhuz" https://doi.org/10.3389/fgene.2021.801295 Abstract Ethnogenesis of Kazakhs took place in Central Asia, a region of high genetic and cultural diversity. Even though archaeological and historical studies have shed some light on the formation of modern Kazakhs, the process of establishment of hierarchical socioeconomic structure in the Steppe remains contentious. In this study, we analyzed haplotype variation at 15 Y-chromosomal short-tandem-repeats obtained from 1171 individuals from 24 tribes representing the three socio-territorial subdivisions (Senior, Middle and Junior zhuz) in Kazakhstan to comprehensively characterize the patrilineal genetic architecture of the Kazakh Steppe. In total, 577 distinct haplotypes were identified belonging to one of 20 haplogroups; 16 predominant haplogroups were confirmed by SNP-genotyping. The haplogroup distribution was skewed towards C2-M217, present in all tribes at a global frequency of 51.9%. Despite signatures of spatial differences in haplotype frequencies, a Mantel test failed to detect a statistically significant correlation between genetic and geographic distance between individuals. An analysis of molecular variance found that ∼8.9% of the genetic variance among individuals was attributable to differences among zhuzes and ∼20% to differences among tribes within zhuzes. The STRUCTURE analysis of the 1164 individuals indicated the presence of 20 ancestral groups and a complex three-subclade organization of the C2-M217 haplogroup in Kazakhs, a result supported by the multidimensional scaling analysis. Additionally, while the majority of the haplotypes and tribes overlapped, a distinct cluster of the O2 haplogroup, mostly of the Naiman tribe, was observed. Thus, firstly, our analysis indicated that the majority of Kazakh tribes share deep heterogeneous patrilineal ancestries, while a smaller fraction of them are descendants of a founder paternal ancestor. Secondly, we observed a high frequency of the C2-M217 haplogroups along the southern border of Kazakhstan, broadly corresponding to both the path of the Mongolian invasion and the ancient Silk Road. Interestingly, we detected three subclades of the C2-M217 haplogroup that broadly exhibits zhuz-specific clustering. Further study of Kazakh haplotypes variation within a Central Asian context is required to untwist this complex process of ethnogenesis.

Добрый день, уважаемые участники форума! Есть новости по Жагалбайлы: https://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=9810.msg543506#new Your YDNA paternal haplogroup had been updated on Yfull live: https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/O-MF58622 This is equivalent to O-MF61473 on the Chinese YDNA tree: https://www.theytree.com/tree/O-MF61473 You and one Chinese individual from Jiangsu Xuzhou, one Chinese individual from Shannxi Yan'an, one Chinese individual from Shandong Weihai share an ancestor from 2430 years ago. There is also a new study done on Y-STR in Kazakhstan: "Genetic Relationship Among the Kazakh People Based on Y-STR Markers Reveals Evidence of Genetic Variation Among Tribes and Zhuz" https://doi.org/10.3389/fgene.2021.801295 Abstract Ethnogenesis of Kazakhs took place in Central Asia, a region of high genetic and cultural diversity. Even though archaeological and historical studies have shed some light on the formation of modern Kazakhs, the process of establishment of hierarchical socioeconomic structure in the Steppe remains contentious. In this study, we analyzed haplotype variation at 15 Y-chromosomal short-tandem-repeats obtained from 1171 individuals from 24 tribes representing the three socio-territorial subdivisions (Senior, Middle and Junior zhuz) in Kazakhstan to comprehensively characterize the patrilineal genetic architecture of the Kazakh Steppe. In total, 577 distinct haplotypes were identified belonging to one of 20 haplogroups; 16 predominant haplogroups were confirmed by SNP-genotyping. The haplogroup distribution was skewed towards C2-M217, present in all tribes at a global frequency of 51.9%. Despite signatures of spatial differences in haplotype frequencies, a Mantel test failed to detect a statistically significant correlation between genetic and geographic distance between individuals. An analysis of molecular variance found that ∼8.9% of the genetic variance among individuals was attributable to differences among zhuzes and ∼20% to differences among tribes within zhuzes. The STRUCTURE analysis of the 1164 individuals indicated the presence of 20 ancestral groups and a complex three-subclade organization of the C2-M217 haplogroup in Kazakhs, a result supported by the multidimensional scaling analysis. Additionally, while the majority of the haplotypes and tribes overlapped, a distinct cluster of the O2 haplogroup, mostly of the Naiman tribe, was observed. Thus, firstly, our analysis indicated that the majority of Kazakh tribes share deep heterogeneous patrilineal ancestries, while a smaller fraction of them are descendants of a founder paternal ancestor. Secondly, we observed a high frequency of the C2-M217 haplogroups along the southern border of Kazakhstan, broadly corresponding to both the path of the Mongolian invasion and the ancient Silk Road. Interestingly, we detected three subclades of the C2-M217 haplogroup that broadly exhibits zhuz-specific clustering. Further study of Kazakh haplotypes variation within a Central Asian context is required to untwist this complex process of ethnogenesis.

О-М175 у потомка Сарке https://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=9810.105 Он первый в таблице по ссылке. Почитайте ответ Фарруха в сообщении после таблицы

https://www.nur.kz/politics/kazakhstan/1940213-institut-izucheniya-ulusa-dzhuchi-sozdan-v-kazahstane/ Институт изучения Улуса Джучи создан в Казахстане

https://www.zakon.kz/amp/5083901-v-almaty-iz-spiska-pamyatnikov-istorii.html В Алматы захоронение исключили из списка памятников истории

На ногайском дөрт четыре же?

Гунж на құнажын похоже Хотя есть еще құнан-бұқа

Tribe Clan Lineage Count FTDNA Haplogroup Prediction DYS393 DYS390 DYS19 DYS391 DYS385 DYS426 DYS388 DYS439 DYS389i DYS392 DYS389ii DYS458 DYS459 DYS455 DYS454 DYS447 DYS437 DYS448 DYS449 DYS464 DYS460 Y-GATA-H4 YCAII DYS456 DYS607 DYS576 DYS570 CDY DYS442 DYS438 Zhagalbaily Myrza Bozbet 1 R1b 13 21 14 11 12-18 12 13 13 12 13 28 14 9-10 11 11 26 15 18 30 12-15-15-17 11 11 20-23 15 17 17 19 34-34 11 12

Haplogroup ISOGG 2020 (v.15.46) Defining SNP Marker(s) Defining SNP Marker of Hg C2 B_DYS389I B_DYS389II B_DYS390 B_DYS456 G_DYS19 G_DYS19-2 G_DYS385-1 G_DYS385-2 G_DYS458 R_DYS437 R_DYS438 R_DYS448 R_Y_GATA_H4 Y_DYS391 Y_DYS392 Y_DYS393 Y_DYS439 Y_DYS635 R1b1a1* P297(xM269) 14 30 19 15 14 13 13 17 15 10 19 10 11 13 13 14 24 R1b1a1* P297(xM269) 13 30 22 15 14 13 16 16 15 10 20 11 11 13 13 12 23 Medieval Super-Grandfather founder of Western Kazakh Clans from Haplogroup C2a1a2-M48 Maxat Zhabagin1,2,3*, Zhaxylyk Sabitov4, Inkar Tazhigulova5, Irina Alborova6, Lan-hai Wei2,7, Vadim Urasin8, Kharis Mustafin6, Ainur Akilzhanova1, Hui Li2, Oleg Balanovsky9,10, Elena Balanovska10,11 1 National Laboratory Astana, Nazarbayev University, Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan 2 MOE Key Laboratory of Contemporary Anthropology and B&R International Joint Laboratory for Eurasian Anthropology, School of Life Sciences, Fudan University, Shanghai, China 3 National Center for Biotechnology, Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan 4 L.N. Gumilyov Eurasian National University, Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan 5 Forensic science center of the Ministry of Justice of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Nur-Sultan, Kazakhstan 6 Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology, Dolgoprudny, Russia 7 Department of Anthropology and Ethnology, Institute of Anthropology, Xiamen University, Xiamen, China 8 YFull service, Moscow, Russia 9 Vavilov Institute for General Genetics, Russian Academy of Sciences, Moscow, Russia 10 Biobank of North Eurasia, Moscow, Russia 11 Research Centre for Medical Genetics, Moscow, Russia *Corresponding author E-mail: mzhabagin@gmail.com (MZ)

https://time.kz/articles/reporter/2021/08/20/bolshaya-opis-stepi Большая опись степи В Казахстане скоро стартует беспрецедентный проект по созданию виртуальной карты петроглифов Великой степи. Принять участие в нем приглашают всех путешественников и краеведов.

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