Бугымуиз

[Гость Aleksandr]

Объясните, пожалуйста, как переводится название перевала Бугымуиз (на некоторых картах - Богомуюс или Бугумуюз).

По этому перевалу пастухи из Южного Алтая гоняют скот на плато Укок.

Нашел, что казахское слово бугы означает «олень».

[enhd]

"Бугы муиз" - это название перевал "Оленья рога"

Бугы, буга - олень

муиз, мыз..? - рога

[Ар_]

Объясните, пожалуйста, как переводится название перевала Бугымуиз (на некоторых картах - Богомуюс или Бугумуюз).

По этому перевалу пастухи из Южного Алтая гоняют скот на плато Укок.

Нашел, что казахское слово бугы означает «олень».

БУГЫ = "олень, лось", МУЙIС = "рог".

Казахско-русский словарь

Казахский

Русский

бугы

лось

олень

муйіз

рог

рога

бугы муйізі

оленьи рога

панты

Long-range etymologies :

MEANING: goat, ram, deer

Eurasiatic: *pOgV

Afroasiatic: *bagga?|(-Vr)-

REFERENCE: ND 185.

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Nostratic etymology :

Nostratic: *pOgV

Meaning: deer, he-goat

Altaic: *po>/gV ( ~ -u-)

Indo-European: *bhug'-

References: ND 185 *bukE?_V 'billy goat, ram'.

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *po>/gV ( ~ -u-)

Meaning: deer (male)

Russian meaning: олень (самец)

Turkic: *bugu, -ra

Mongolian: *bojir

Tungus-Manchu: *pegu(le)-

Comments: KW 58, Лексика 152. A Western isogloss. High tone reconstructed because of Mong. *b-.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *bugu, -ra

Meaning: 1 deer (male) 2 camel stallion

Russian meaning: 1 олень 2 самец верблюда

Old Turkic: bug|u 1 (13th c.), bug|ura 2 (Orkh.)

Karakhanid: bug|ra 2 (MK)

Turkish: bug|ur 2, dial. bug|u 1

Middle Turkic: bug|u 1, bug|ra, bug|ur 2 (Pav. C.)

Uzbek: bug|u 1

Uighur: bug|u 1, (dial.) bug|ra, bog|ra 2

Sary-Yughur: pyrg|a 2

Azerbaidzhan: bug|ur 2

Turkmen: bug|ra 2

Oyrat: bura 2

Yakut: bu:r 'male reindeer, male'

Dolgan: bu:r 'male reindeer'

Tuva: bu:ra 2, bu:r 'male elk'

Kirghiz: bu:ra 2

Kazakh: bura 2

Noghai: bora 2

Balkar: bu: 1

Karakalpak: buwra 2

Comments: EDT 317-318, ЭСТЯ 2, 235-238, Лексика 152, Лексика 446-447, Stachowski 67. Turk. bugura > Mong. bug|ura (see TMN 2, 296, Щербак 1997, 110). Щербак 1997, 201 considers Turkic *bugu to be borrowed from Mongolian bug|u 'male deer' (which may be true for some Kypchak forms: Kirgh. bug|u, Kaz. bu>g|y, Nogh., KKalp. bug|y), but in fact one can also think of a loan in the opposite direction: Turk. > Mong. bug|u (KW 58, MGCD 166), further > Evk. bug|u etc., see Doerfer MT 78. Turk. > Russ. Siber. bura/ 'female camel'; Mong. (Bur.) bu:ra > Russ. Siber. bu/ra id., see Аникин 142.

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Mongolian etymology :

Proto-Mongolian: *bojir

Meaning: male (of animals: elk, otter etc.)

Russian meaning: самец животных (лося, выдры и др.)

Written Mongolian: bojir (L 113)

Khalkha: bojr

Kalmuck: bo":lc@n 'otter' (КРС 114)

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Tungus etymology :

Proto-Tungus-Manchu: *pegu(le)- ( / *po-)

Meaning: young of elk, elk

Russian meaning: лосенок, лось

Evenki: hogloka:n, heglen, hewlen

Comments: ТМС 2, 360. An Evk. word with probable external parallels; its relationship to a homophonous TM name of a constellation (Ursa Major or Minor) is not quite clear.

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Indo-European etymology :

Proto-IE: *bhug'-

Meaning: he-goat, ram

Old Indian: Gipsy buzni Ziege

Avestan: bu:za- `he-goat'

Other Iranian: NPers buz `goat'

Armenian: buc `lamb'

Germanic: *bukk-a- m., *bukk-an- m.

Celtic: MIr bocc, Ir boc; Corn boch, Cymr bwch, Bret bouc'h `козел'

References: WP II 189

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Pokorny's dictionary :

Root: bhu:>g^o-s, Koseform bhukko-s

English meaning: goat

German meaning: `Bock'

Grammatical comments: (fem. auf -a: `Ziege')

Material: Zigeun. buzni `Ziege'; av. bu:za m. `Ziegenbock', npers. buz `Ziege, Bock';

    arm. buz `Lamm';

    mir. bocc, pocc, nir. boc, poc, cymr. bwch, corn. boch, bret. bouc'h `Bock', dazu mir. bocca:nach `Gespenst';

    germ. *bukka- (nach Pedersen Litteris 7, 23 f. aus dem Kelt. entlehnt?) in aisl. bukkr, bokkr, bokki, ags. bucca, nengl. buck, ahd. mhd. boc, -ekes, nhd. Bock.

    Das im Konsonantismus abweichende ai. bukka-h. `Ziegenbock' (unbelegt) ist wohl von bukkati `bellt' (s. unter beu-1, bu-) beeinflus|te hypochoristische Umbildung eines *bhu:ja- =av. bu:za-. Auch npers. dial. boc^a `junge Ziege', pa:m. buc^, bu"c^ scheinen Ergebnis a"hnlicher Umbildung zu sein.

References: WP. II 189 f., Pedersen Litteris 7, 23 f., Martinet Ge/mination 182.

Pages: 174

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Germanic etymology :

Proto-Germanic: *bukka-z, *bukke:n

Meaning: buck

Old Norse: bukk-r, bokk-r m. `Bock'

Norwegian: bokk, bukk

Swedish: bock

Danish: buk

Old English: buc, -es m. `buck, male-hirsch', bucca, -an m. `he-goat, buck'

English: buck

Old Saxon: buck

Middle Dutch: boc, buc

Dutch: bok M.

Old Franconian: buck

Middle Low German: buck

Old High German: boc, buc (9.Jh.)

Middle High German: boc (-ck-) st. m. 'bock; ho"lzernes gestell; ramme'

German: Bock m.

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Afroasiatic etymology :

Proto-Afro-Asiatic: *bagga?|(-Vr)-

Meaning: goat, sheep

Berber: *bagug 'young ram, lamb'

Western Chadic: *bag- 'sheep'

Central Chadic: *bag- 'sheep'

East Chadic: *bag- 'goat' 1, 'cattle' 2

Central Cushitic (Agaw): *bagga: 'sheep, ram'

Omotic: *bagVy- 'goat'

NOTES: Cf. Eth *bag(g)i?|- 'goat' (<*Cu.?). Cf. HSED, 44 (Brb., CCh., ECh.: Sbn.; CCu., Om.: Kf. + Bw. - not in Lamb. Bw.)

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Berber etymology :

Proto-Berber: *bagug

Meaning: 'young ram, lamb'

Nefusa: Cf. bg:u, pl. i-bg:i-in 'calf' Wo"lf. 1955, 58

Ayr: a-ba>gog 'jeune mouton de 2 a\ 3 ans' Aloj., 4

Ahaggar (Tahaggart): a-bag:ug::, pl. i-bg:a^g: 'agneau' F., 34; Taytoq abaz\/uz\/ 'mouton' Wo"lf. (jubaque)?

Tawllemmet: a-ba>gog 'jeune mouton de 2 a\ 3 ans' Aloj., 4

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Egyptian etymology :

Old Egyptian: dmy (pyr)

Meaning: 'town'

Demotic: dmy

Coptic: *tmi

Coptic meaning: 'village'

Bohairic: tmi

Sahidic: tme

Notes: Copt shows that Eg -y continues a suffix.

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Western Chadic etymology :

Proto-WChadic: *bag-

Meaning: 'sheep'

Mupun: m\ba/ak [FrM]

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Central Chadic etymology :

Proto-CChadic: *bag-

Meaning: 'sheep'

Gude: ba\ga/ [Hs]

Fali Jilvu: b@\ga\ [Kr: 8]

Fali Muchella: b@\g@ [Kr: 18]

Fali Bwagira: bag@-n [Kr:28 ]

Mwulyen: m/ba/ga-tı/ [Kr: 58]

Bachama: m-baga-to [CLR: 291]

Bata: ba:ge/ [CLR: 291]

Notes: cp. C 7MOF tu\-ba/n|, MATK ta\mba\k [CLR: 291] < *ta-bVk# ?

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Eastern Chadic etymology :

Proto-EChadic: *bag-

Meaning: 'goat' 1, 'cattle' 2

Sokoro: bu/go: 2 [Lk: 46]

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Agaw etymology :

Proto-Agaw: *bagga:

Meaning: 'sheep, ram' Cer. Kaf., 411; LGz., 88

Bilin: bagga: 'pecora'

Khamir: bega:

Khamta: biga:

Qwara: baga:

Qemant: baga:

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Omotic etymology :

Proto-Omotic: *bagVy-

Meaning: 'goat'

Kafa (Kaficho): bage: 'pecora' Cer. Kaf., 411

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Nostratic etymology :

Nostratic: *mVjn|V

Meaning: horn, peg

Altaic: *mu/jn|i

Kartvelian: OG mana 'peg'?

Indo-European: *mei- 'Pfahl'?

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *mu/jn|i

Meaning: horn; cartilage, tendon

Russian meaning: рог; хрящ, сухожилие

Turkic: *bujn|ur/ (*bu"jn|u"r/)

Mongolian: *mo"g|er-su" (-n|-)

Tungus-Manchu: *mun|i

Korean: *my\i'i\m

Comments: EAS 120, Poppe 73, KW 268, VEWT 347b (but PTM *mu":re 'shoulder' is not related); ТМС 1, 557 (Tung.-Mong.); АПиПЯЯ 282, Лексика 148.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *bujn|ur/ (*bu"jn|u"r/)

Meaning: horn

Russian meaning: рог

Old Turkic: mu"ju"z (OUygh.)

Karakhanid: mu"n|u"z (MK)

Turkish: bojnuz

Tatar: mo"gez

Middle Turkic: mu"n|u"z, mu"giz (Pav. C.)

Uzbek: mu.giz

Uighur: mu"n|gu"z

Sary-Yughur: mon|ys

Azerbaidzhan: bujnuz

Turkmen: bujnuz

Khakassian: mu":s

Shor: mu":s

Oyrat: mu":s

Chuvash: mъjraga

Yakut: muos

Dolgan: muos

Tuva: myjys

Tofalar: miis

Kirghiz: mu"ju"z

Kazakh: mu"jiz

Noghai: mu"jiz

Bashkir: mo"go"d|

Balkar: mu"ju"z

Gagauz: bujnus

Karaim: mun|guz

Karakalpak: mujiz

Salar: mon|yz

Kumyk: mu"ju"z

Comments: VEWT 347, EDT 352, ЭСТЯ 2, 243, Лексика 148, Stachowski 183.

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Mongolian etymology :

Proto-Mongolian: *mo"g|er-su" (-n|-)

Meaning: cartilage, gristle

Russian meaning: хрящ

Written Mongolian: mo"ge®su", mo"n|gu"rsu" (L 545: mo"geresu"(n))

Middle Mongolian: muqursun 'marrow, pith' (MA)

Khalkha: mo"go":®s, mo":rs

Buriat: men|ge:rhe(n)

Kalmuck: mo":rsn.

Ordos: mo":ro"su", mo":ro"s

Dagur: muemc^i

Monguor: mun|girz|@ (SM 248), (MGCD mung@rs@)

Comments: KW 268, MGCD 489.

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Tungus etymology :

Proto-Tungus-Manchu: *mun|i

Meaning: tendon

Russian meaning: сухожилие (на конце мышцы)

Evenki: mun|i

Comments: ТМС 1, 557. Attested only in Evk., but having plausible external parallels.

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Korean etymology :

Proto-Korean: *my\i'i\m

Meaning: gums

Russian meaning: десны

Middle Korean: ni\-s-my\i'i\m, ni/-s-my\'jo\m, ni-s-my'ym, ni-s-myi'jom (ni- 'tooth'

Comments: Nam 127. The modern form it-mom is a result of reinterpreting the compound as 'tooth's flesh' (mom).

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Indo-European etymology :

Proto-IE: *meit- (-th-)

Nostratic etymology:

Meaning: stake, post

Old Indian: methi/- m., methi: f. (also medhi-, medhi:, med.hi:) `pillar, post'

Baltic: *meĩt-a- c.

Germanic: *maid-a- m.

Latin: me:ta f. `jede kegel- od. pyramidenfo"rmige Figur; Spitzsa"ule; Ziel; Heuschober'

References: WP II 240 f

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Pokorny's dictionary :

Root: mei-1

English meaning: to strengthen; pole

German meaning: `befestigen'

Derivatives: nominal `Pfahl; Holzbau'; moi-ro- `Holzbau'

Material: Ai. mino:/ti `befestigt, gru"ndet, baut', miti/- f. `Errichtun', mita/- `befestigt', me:/tar- `der Aufrichter', mayu:/kha- m. `Pflock, Strahl', npers. me:x| `Pflock, Nagel' (*maix|a-), sogd. myg|k ds., ai. sume:/ka- `wohlgegru"ndet, fest';

    lat. Pl. moenia `Umwallung, Stadtmauern' (`*Umpfa"hlung'), mu:nio: (arch. moenio:), -i:re `aufda"mmen (einen Weg), aufmauern, verschanzen, befestigen'; mu:rus, alt moiros `Mauer';

    air. -tuidmen (*to-di:-mi-na-t) `befestigt', Verbaln. tuidme;

    germ. *mairja- `(Grenz)pfahl', ags. mæ:re, gemæ:re `Grenze, Gebiet', aisl. landa-mæ:ri `Grenze, Grenzland', usw.

    mei-d(h)- in: mir. me/(i)de m. `Nacken' (*mei-d-i_o-); lett. mi\et `einpfa"hlen', maĩdi^t `bestecken'.

    Mit t erweitert me:t- : m@it- : mit- in:

    ai. me:thi/- m., me:thi:/ f. (prakritisiert me:dhi/-, me:dhi:/, me:d.hi:/) `Pfeiler, Pfosten', mi/t- f. `Sa"ule, Pfosten' (vielleicht auch in av. b@r@zi-mita-, wenn `hochsa"ulig'), arm. moit` `Pfeiler'; lat. me:ta `(*Pfahl), jede kegel- oder pyramidenfo"rmige Figur'); mir. methas `Grenzmark' (*mitostu-); aisl. meiðr `Baum, Balken, Stange'; lit. miẽtas, lett. mi\ets `Pfahl'; schwundstufig lit. mita `Stecken zum Netzestricken'; wahrscheinlich auch abg. me^sto, skr. mjȅsto, c^ech. mi/sto `Ort' aus *mo:itsto- oder *me:tsto-.

References: WP. II 239 f., WH. II 30 f., Trautmann 165 f.;

See also: vgl. mei-4.

Pages: 709

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Baltic etymology :

Proto-Baltic: *meĩt-a- c.

Meaning: stake, post

Lithuanian: miẽta-s `(Zaun)pfahl; mita Stecken zum Netzestricken; Garnflu"gel, kleines Brettchen, das mit einer Schnur am ende des Netzsackes befestigt ist und durch seine Lage auf dem Wasser dem Fischer die Stellung des Netzes anzeigt'

Lettish: mi\ets 'Pfahl; Staken, Hopfenstange, Bihnenstange'

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Germanic etymology :

Proto-Germanic: *maida-z

Meaning: tree, beam

Old Norse: meid|-r m. `Baum'

Norwegian: meid `Schlitterunterlage'

Swedish: med(e) `Schlitterunterlage'

Danish: mede `Schlitterunterlage'

Old English: { wull-mo:d `Spinnrocken' }

Old High German: { meit `Baum', wolla-meit `Spinnrocken' }

В связи со словом МУЙIС = "рог" интересно упомянуть другое тюркское слово , звучащее почти так же и означающее почти то же . Это слово МУЙIС = "угол, мыс". Старостин относит его к другому алтайскому корню со значением УГОЛ, и почему то не упоминает в этой связи индоевропейское слово МЫС, которое по Фасмеру имеет неясную этимологию, и переводится в значении МЫС у тюрок словом МУЙIС = "угол, мыс".

Вот и прояснили этимологию

Может и РОГ, и МЫС, и УГОЛ все же одного корня? Корня, который, как предположил Сулейменов, содержится в мычании РОГАТОГО быка - МУ-У, и в названии ДВУРОГОЙ луны -MOON

Казахский

Русский

муйіс

бухта

мыс

угол

уголок

Word: мыс,

Near etymology: род. п. -а, ка́менный мыс, у Арсен. Сухан. 118 (1651 г.), блр. мыс "угол (стола)". Неясно. Сравнение с др.-инд. múkham "пасть, морда", греч. μυχός "внутренность, глубина; залив, бухта", арм. mẋеm (*muẋem) "ныряю" (Бугге, KZ 32, 20; Уленбек, Aind. Wb. 226, без русск. слова) сомнительно в фонетическом отношении. Сближение с греч. ἀμύσσω, атт. ἀμύττω "царапаю", ἀμυχή "царапина", ἀμυκΒλΒί ̇ Βἱ ἀκίδες τῶν βελῶν (Гесихий), лат. mucrō м. "острие" (Ильинский, Сб. Вс. Срезневскому 33 и сл.), лит. mùšti, mùšu "бью" неубедительно семантически, ср. Вальде--Гофм. 2, 117 и сл.; Гофман, Gr. Wb. 16; Буазак 17.

Pages: 3,24

Nostratic etymology :

Nostratic: *mun|l/e

Meaning: corner

Altaic: *mun|l/e

Dravidian: *mu:l-

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Altaic etymology :

Proto-Altaic: *mun|l/e

Meaning: angle

Russian meaning: угол

Turkic: *bu"n|u"l/

Tungus-Manchu: *mon|la

Japanese: *masu-

Comments: An interesting Turk.-TM-Jpn. match; the meaning in TM probably reflects an intermediate stage "angle between the index finger and thumb". {Cf. Wmo mujilan| 'короткие и широкие рога'?}.

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Turkic etymology :

Proto-Turkic: *bu"n|u"l/

Meaning: angle

Russian meaning: угол

Karakhanid: mu"n|u"s^ (Rabg.)

Tatar: mu"jes^

Middle Turkic: mu"n|u"s^ (Sangl.)

Uzbek: mujus^, mujys^

Yakut: mun|, mun|nuk

Dolgan: mun|, munnuk

Kazakh: mu"jis

Noghai: mu"jis

Bashkir: mu"ges^ (dial.)

Balkar: mu"ju"s^

Karaim: mu"ju"s^, mu"vu"s^

Karakalpak: mu"jes^

Kumyk: mujus^, mu"ju"s^

Comments: VEWT 344, EDT 771, ЭСТЯ 7, Stachowski 182 (on a different etymology of Yak. mun|nuq see Clark 1977, 133).

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Tungus etymology :

Proto-Tungus-Manchu: *mon|la

Meaning: 1 measure of length (distance between the thumb and the index finger) 2 finger

Russian meaning: 1 мера длины (расстояние между большим и указательным пальцем) 2 палец

Ulcha: mowgolo 2

Orok: momgu., mon|bo 1,2

Oroch: mon|lo 1

Comments: ТМС 1, 545. The Orok and Ul. form are probably dissimilative developments of *mon|glo < *mon|la.

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Japanese etymology :

Proto-Japanese: *masu-

Meaning: square shape, shape with angles

Russian meaning: квадратная форма

Middle Japanese: masu-gata

Tokyo: masugata

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Dravidian etymology :

Proto-Dravidian : *mu:l-

Meaning : corner, angle

Proto-South Dravidian: *mu:l-ai

Proto-Telugu : *mu:l-

Proto-Kolami-Gadba : *mu:l-

Proto-Gondi-Kui : *mu:l-

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South Dravidian etymology :

Proto-South Dravidian : *mu:l-ai

Meaning : corner

Tamil : mu:lai

Tamil meaning : corner, intermediate point of compass

Malayalam : mu:la

Malayalam meaning : corner, intermediate point of compass

Kannada : mu:le

Kannada meaning : corner, point of compass

Kodagu : mu:le

Kodagu meaning : corner

Tulu : mu:le\

Tulu meaning : corner, point of compass, direction

Proto-Nilgiri : *mu:l[a"]

Miscellaneous : KOR (T) mullu corner

Number in DED : 5044

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Nilgiri etymology :

Proto-Nilgiri : *mu:l[a"]

Meaning : corner, direction

Kota : mu:l

Toda : mu:ly

Number in DED : 5044

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Telugu etymology :

Proto-Telugu : *mu:l-

Meaning : corner, point of compass, direction

Telugu : mu:la

Number in DED : 5044

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Kolami-Gadba etymology :

Proto-Kolami-Gadba : *mu:l-

Meaning : corner

Kolami (Setumadhava Rao) : mu:la: "corner, elbow"

Parji : mu:la

Number in DED : 5044

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Gondwan etymology :

Proto-Gondi-Kui : *mu:l-

Meaning : corner

Proto-Gondi : *mu:l-a:

Konda : mu:la

Proto-Kui-Kuwi : *mu:l-

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Gondi etymology :

Proto-Gondi : *mu:l-a:

Meaning : corner

Koya Gondi : mu:la

Maria Gondi (Mitchell) : mu:la

Adilabad Gondi : mu:la "(SR) horizon"

Number in DED : 5044

Number in CVOTGD : 2945

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Konda etymology :

Konda : mu:la

MEANING: corner

Number in DED : 5044

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Kui-Kuwi etymology :

Proto-Kui-Kuwi : *mu:l-

Meaning : corner

Kui : muju, mudgu (?)

Kuwi (Fitzgerald) : mu:la

Sunkarametta Kuwi : mu:la

Kuwi (Israel) : mu:la

Notes : Kui muju cannot belong here; it hhould go back to *muygu.

Number in DED : 5044

[Гость Aleksandr]

Спасибо!

Там еще река течет, называется Узургу.

В Интернете нашел, что у бурят слово «узур» означает "устье".

А что означает узургу по-казахски?